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	<title>Comments on: Help Accelerate the Demise of IE6</title>
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		<title>By: Zi</title>
		<link>http://www.havocinspired.co.uk/browsers/help-accelerate-the-demise-of-ie6/#comment-19</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 01:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your missing one other category of users still on IE 6. Those on dial up. There is a vast audience out there that still lives outside the broadband reach and the download just takes too long. As a developer it&#039;s hard to convince my clients to exclude these customers on principle, because, from what they see there isn&#039;t much difference between a tabled layout and a pure css layout. I tried for several years to make pure css and standards work. I&#039;ve given up and gone back to tables, and let me tell you, it&#039;s saved me hundreds of hours of pulling my hair out over ie 5.5 and 6 bugs. The benefits of pure css simply don&#039;t outweigh the hacks and headaches needed to make &quot;it work&quot; for the obsolete browsers. Even if I convince a client to support only modern browsers it usually comes back to bite me when their client calls up with a &quot;bug&quot; (aka ie 5.5/6). I then have a choice to fix it, or piss of an un-understanding client.

My gut feeling tells me that the nightmare that Microsoft created is going to be around for years to come, and even they are regretting it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your missing one other category of users still on IE 6. Those on dial up. There is a vast audience out there that still lives outside the broadband reach and the download just takes too long. As a developer it&#8217;s hard to convince my clients to exclude these customers on principle, because, from what they see there isn&#8217;t much difference between a tabled layout and a pure css layout. I tried for several years to make pure css and standards work. I&#8217;ve given up and gone back to tables, and let me tell you, it&#8217;s saved me hundreds of hours of pulling my hair out over ie 5.5 and 6 bugs. The benefits of pure css simply don&#8217;t outweigh the hacks and headaches needed to make &#8220;it work&#8221; for the obsolete browsers. Even if I convince a client to support only modern browsers it usually comes back to bite me when their client calls up with a &#8220;bug&#8221; (aka ie 5.5/6). I then have a choice to fix it, or piss of an un-understanding client.</p>
<p>My gut feeling tells me that the nightmare that Microsoft created is going to be around for years to come, and even they are regretting it.</p>
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		<title>By: Stone Deft</title>
		<link>http://www.havocinspired.co.uk/browsers/help-accelerate-the-demise-of-ie6/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Stone Deft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah IE 6 and lower IE sucks big time and God bless bill gates and his not so brilliant production team for making life of a web developer hell. Why coudn&#039;t they just patch IE to comply with web standards because the truth is it won&#039;t die, hey it comes packaged with windows xp to start with.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah IE 6 and lower IE sucks big time and God bless bill gates and his not so brilliant production team for making life of a web developer hell. Why coudn&#8217;t they just patch IE to comply with web standards because the truth is it won&#8217;t die, hey it comes packaged with windows xp to start with.</p>
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